campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >> democrat senators digging in on spending -- >> i am not going to keep cutting the discretionary budget, which by the way is not out of control! despite what you hear on fox news. >> well, we couldn't get the senator, but we did get charles. charles, we are making it all up. >> by the way, what is she talking about? do we call lawmakers out on discretionary spending? >> this is some elementary form of reverse psychology. here's the bottom line. look, i am on the fox business network, every single day. i cannot recall the last time anybody made an issue -- a big issue about discretionary spending, except, eric, in the sense that lawmakers don't have the guts to at least attack those things, when will they get the guts to talk about the real problem. we talk about the real problem, the real challenges which we are are entitlement, but how can you go after those, if you can't stop shrimp on a treadmill? >> we talk about that because, you know, it's a smal